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Lovely Mai
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: Richter and Leon: Seperated at birth by Time Travel? Reply with quote

No. This is not about time travel in CV. LOLZ!

Digging up an old topic for a new generation of members, I would like to draw attention to the similarities between Richter and Leon Belmont.

Of course, Richter came first. We all know that.
But if you look, there's some SERIOUS similarities.

*Both had their girlfriend/fiancee kidnapped by big bad.

*Both have odd trench coats (asthetic similarity, I know)

*Both of their girlfriend/fiancees are turned into a critter of the night in at least one ending

*Both have overly melodramatic dialogue. (Leon: "I'LL KILL YOU AND THE NIGHT!!"; Richter: *every line he uttered in the original english dub of SOTN*)

*Both have a close relationship to Dracula (More so than the other Belmonts)

*Both are capable of Item Crashes (Or Item Crash-like abilities)

I'm sure you can find other similarities as well, but these are just the ones that came up in the last discussion, and a few I discovered myself.

So, the evidence is before you. What does it all mean? Does it mean Iga is again guilty of COPYPASTA?

Nope.

Sure, they have PLENTY of similarities. But Iga took what was best about Richter and spun a new tale using that as its base. Here's the deal. The Belmonts themselves may have plenty of similarities, but the games they belong to are worlds apart. Richter's Rondo of Blood/ Dracula XX is a almost TOTALLY different style game than Lament of Innnocence. One is a linear game, albeit with some room for exploration, but the layout is completely sealed off; you can't go back to stages you've already cleared without replaying them. The other game is an open ended castle, you are free to explore it to the limits of your current ablities, and you can backtrack as well. The villains are VERY different; Walter would have made a HORRIBLE Dracula.

So even though the characters may be similar, there is enough differences in the events unfolding around them to keep them markedly different.

Some of us (including me, most of all) don't always appreciate Iga, but this is one area where he deserves a cheer.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He does deserve a cheer for coming up with some interesting characters, so I say we let him have his moment. Then bash him when OoE turns into a total piece of crap! (joking about OoE.)
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IGA should never be bashed.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. THis sounds a lot less fannish than our previous discussion on this topic...

Nice Summary of the previous diuscussion topic!
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Leon's little outburst.

I just always have this thought of Walter after hearing that turning to Mathias behind him with a WTF look. Mathias just shakes his head.

"He's been doing that as long as I have known him. You get used to it."

800 years later, Richter is running around... and Drac hears the "Mankind ill needs a saviour such as you!" line.

"Oh you must be a Belmont..."


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Little Adrian comes home one day, Dracula looks him up and down, "Where were you, you were supposed to be home an hour before sunrise."

"Think you I would forget such a thing! No!"

"You've been hanging out with the Belmont kid in town... Trevor... haven't you?"
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave it to ladyice to come up with something good. LOL.

Nice one!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely Mai wrote:
Leave it to ladyice to come up with something good. LOL.

Nice one!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladyice wrote:
I love Leon's little outburst.

I just always have this thought of Walter after hearing that turning to Mathias behind him with a WTF look. Mathias just shakes his head.

"He's been doing that as long as I have known him. You get used to it."

800 years later, Richter is running around... and Drac hears the "Mankind ill needs a saviour such as you!" line.

"Oh you must be a Belmont..."


---

Little Adrian comes home one day, Dracula looks him up and down, "Where were you, you were supposed to be home an hour before sunrise."

"Think you I would forget such a thing! No!"

"You've been hanging out with the Belmont kid in town... Trevor... haven't you?"


Awesome.

Yeah. The dialogue of these guys is just... over the top and overly superfluous.


That said, Iga still does come up with characters worth playing. I'd never bash him for that.
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